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    Problem with Haunts

    I'm running Malevolence for 2 groups at the moment and came across some problems.

    The Haunt effects are covered and automated in the Reactions(A) field.
    The effects do not turn up in the combat tracker so I have to open up the description/info.

    The automation looks like this:
    "DC 19 Will save"|Save: Will[DC:19][TRAITS: haunt]
    "malevolence condition by 1"|Effect: Malevolence Condition (1)[FAILURE][CRITFAILURE]
    Adding ApplyAllEffects
    "Apply"|ApplyAllEffects"
    "DC 19 Will save"|Save: Will[DC:19][TRAITS: haunt]
    "malevolence condition by 1"|Effect: Malevolence Condition (1)[FAILURE][CRITFAILURE]
    does not work. clicking on the word Apply does nothing.

    As there is no Apply All Effects button so that I have to delete the PCROLL manually and click on the effect to add it to the PC.

    I added the trait haunt to the traits enclosed in brackets after the reaction name
    (emotion, enchantment, fear, mental, occult, haunt)
    Creating an effect on the PC of SAVE: -1 will, haunt does not effect the save roll of the pc.
    I then noticed that no traits were listed in the chat at all when rolling the save
    TEACUP: [SAVE] Will [TRAITS ]
    I added Haunt to the PCROLL i.e. Save: Will[DC:19][TRAITS: haunt]
    Did not work. But only then did a trait turn up on the saving roll:
    TEACUP: [SAVE] Will [TRAITS haunt]
    Is this because they are a "Hazard" instead of an NPC/Creature?
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    Short answer I think is yes. Automation for Hazards isn't complete. Usually I just convert the hazards to NPCs and just copy the trait description into the NPC so created. And then add the automation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnaby View Post
    As there is no Apply All Effects button so that I have to delete the PCROLL manually and click on the effect to add it to the PC.
    There should be:



    I'll look into the issue with the traits. Thanks for reporting.

    Adding ApplyAllEffects
    "Apply"|ApplyAllEffects"
    "DC 19 Will save"|Save: Will[DC:19][TRAITS: haunt]
    "malevolence condition by 1"|Effect: Malevolence Condition (1)[FAILURE][CRITFAILURE]
    does not work. clicking on the word Apply does nothing.
    Remove the double-quote from the end of ApplyAllEffects" However, this does result in a database node error. I've fixed this error and it will be in a future release. In the meantime, use the button highlighted above.
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    Nope.
    v4.1.10 Ultimate (2021-10-5)

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    Will try again with no extensions loaded.


    [Update 1]
    Okay, so it's an extension causing the button to disappear.
    I will now try the lovely task of finding out which one.

    [Update 2]
    It is the Player Agency extension by damned
    The button still appears in the NPC/Creature window though.
    I will report it in the appropriate thread.
    https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...tension/page32
    Last edited by Farnaby; October 10th, 2021 at 08:39. Reason: New Info
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    Hi Trenloe

    I spent about 30mins looking into this but Im struggling to find what is causing the issue...
    If you have time to look at it together hit me in discord.

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    For the save with traits, I've made a code change to use the first line of the ability text as the ability title & traits. I need to review this for other hazards and see if it makes sense. The issue is that this won't work where multiple abilities are in the same section - but, so far, I haven't seen hazards like that; but I'm sure it's a possibility.

    Here's the hazard in question with the code change, #1 is the usual forced save, #2 is the setup for a PCROLL save.

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    Thanks Trenloe,

    That's a great help.
    I take it the code will be in the 12.10. update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnaby View Post
    I take it the code will be in the 12.10. update?
    It was too late to make it into tomorrow's update. Changes need to be submitted by 12pm Central on Friday to make it into the release on the next Tuesday after.
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    The ruleset updates discussed above went like yeaterday.

    https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...ober-19th-2021
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    The traits show up and I even added the trait haunt and a SAVE: -1 status, will, haunt worked perfectly.
    Thank you.
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