-
February 21st, 2021, 22:45 #21
So what is the recommendation here in regard to licensing? I want to be able to both use Smiteworks code and have the chance of having something make it back into the base FG product, but I also want anyone to be able to clone my code and run with it as they see fit.
Is there a specific license here? Or do I just come up with my own licensing wording (or use something standard I can slap in my LICENSE file...)
-
February 21st, 2021, 22:52 #22
Oh, except I want to forbid people from cloning my code, modifying it then selling it. I want it and all derivatives of it to be free and accessible to anyone to clone and modify as they wish.
-
February 21st, 2021, 22:56 #23
- Join Date
- Mar 2020
- Posts
- 43
My personal preference is MIT, but it is very permissive. Anyone can use my code for any reason, including repackaging and selling it. The copyright though belongs to me, so they can't assert their own copyright that would supercede mine. That works for me. I'm not a fan of anyone ripping others off by selling free code, but I don't imagine that would actually be very likely. And with MIT there is no problem at all with Smiteworks running with it if they wanted to incorporate anything.
-
February 21st, 2021, 23:09 #24
- Join Date
- Apr 2020
- Location
- Camas, WA
- Posts
- 195
While I have not yet written FG extensions, I was a fan of MIT back when I wrote WoW addons.
-
February 21st, 2021, 23:10 #25
Does MIT cover the bases of being able to use Smiteworks code in my extensions and Smiteworks being able to potentially incorporate the code back into the base product? Looks like if someone was so inclined they could take my code, wrap it up and sell it but I suppose that'd be on their conscience if they did so.
-
February 21st, 2021, 23:15 #26
- Join Date
- Apr 2020
- Location
- Camas, WA
- Posts
- 195
Keeping in mind I’m not a lawyer, it should allow SmiteWorks (or anyone) to incorporate your code.
It does not free you from your obligations to comply with SmiteWorks’ terms on their code, but no license can.
https://https://opensource.org/licenses/MITLast edited by Dire Weasel; February 21st, 2021 at 23:19.
-
February 22nd, 2021, 00:12 #27
So this point did not come up earlier in my "On Licensing: Distribution of Community Content" discussion. Could one of you please take a look at that and help me re-write it to be more accurate? https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...munity-Content
Well, if my early discussion is valid, CC-BY-NC should work for what you want right? Except for the issue of allowing SmiteWorks the commercial part. Not sure...
Problems? See; How to Report Issues, Bugs & Problems
On Licensing & Distributing Community Content
Community Contributions: Gemstones, 5E Quick Ref Decal, Adventure Module Creation, Dungeon Trinkets, Balance Disturbed, Dungeon Room Descriptions
Note, I am not a SmiteWorks employee or representative, I'm just a user like you.
-
February 22nd, 2021, 00:27 #28
- Join Date
- Mar 2020
- Posts
- 43
For me I'm happy to have it re-used in commercial work. I'd be displeased by a simple repackaging for money, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either. I think the closest CC license would be CC-BY-4.0, but I think MIT is more commonly known. I think that for daddyogreman the CC-BY-NC is probably good. Personally I wouldn't want to publish under his umbrella though if that required me to use his choice of license. I could always dual license under both, which would in effect be the same as just publishing under the one I want. "Your choice to allow commercial re-use or not". Heh.
LordEntrails, while I have your ear I'd like to give you a hearty thanks for all of your efforts to help extension and ruleset developers understand all this stuff!
-
February 22nd, 2021, 00:39 #29
The thing is - nothing you write in an extension works without smiteworks copyrighted commercial work. Period. You can't really separate what you "put on top of it" and somehow claim your part is distributable without their permission. Why licensing on selling is so limited. Now for free you can distribute it here for sure. Elsewhere? Where someone may profit from patreon or pay pal without giving Smiteworks their cut for basing all your work on theirs?
That is not legit (or so I've been told). So... tricky walk you walk doing this. I wish you luck.Last edited by SilentRuin; February 22nd, 2021 at 00:45.
Free(Forums/Forge) Extension(FGU 5E):
Paid (Forge) Extension(FGU 5E):
-
February 22nd, 2021, 00:48 #30
- Join Date
- Mar 2020
- Posts
- 43
I don't buy this. The code in my extensions was written by me. I can distribute it however I want. Now if my extension contains a copy of work owned by Smiteworks then it is a derivative and bound by their license. Saying they own it because their software is required to run it would be like saying that Microsoft owns every piece of software that runs on Windows. Of course I'm not a lawyer, and this is just my opinion. For me it doesn't matter anyway since I'm happy to allow commercial reuse.
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks