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    Conditional Action Effects (IF, IFT, and IFA)

    Just want to verify that there is no functionality for this in FG. It looks like "IF" covers the PC and "IFT" covers what the PC is attacking, but there isn't a "IFA" for something attacking the PC. In other words, there isn't any way to do this:

    IFA: SIZE(=medium); AC: 1

    Also, I can't get CRIT to work with IFT. This coding does not set the crit range correctly when the IFT condition is used:

    IFT: TYPE (giant); CRIT: 19

    CRIT: 19 works
    IFT: TYPE (giant); DMG: 1d8 works

    But if when I swap out DMG with CRIT it doesn't work.

    For reference, this is all around conditional coding the 5e Feat "Giant Slayer".

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    IFT is for If Target. There is no way to test for incoming Attacks, etc.

    Only certain modifiers can be used with the Target IFT. These should all be marked as such in the wiki. Not sure which ones, but from the behavior you mention I suspect Size is not one of them.

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    Both IF and IFT work on both PCs and NPCs. It all depends on where the effect is. If the effect is on a PC the IF refers to the PC and IFT refers to it’s target. Similarly if the effect are on the NPC then IF refers to the NPC and IFT refers to it’s target. The target of IFT can be anything that the PC or NPC targets. You’ll find more details in video five in this series https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...-Videos-for-5E

    As regards CRIT this will not work with IF or IFT. Only targeted effects can be used in such statements. See the Wiki; in the last colum you will see a T against effects which are targeted effects and so can be used in IF and IFT effects. https://fantasygroundsunity.atlassia...ced+Automation
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEntrails View Post
    IFT is for If Target. There is no way to test for incoming Attacks, etc.

    Only certain modifiers can be used with the Target IFT. These should all be marked as such in the wiki. Not sure which ones, but from the behavior you mention I suspect Size is not one of them.

    IF and IFT tests for conditions and conditional modifiers. SIZE is a conditional modifier.
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    IFT also works in reverse for defensive targeted modifiers - AC is such a modifier. Think of it as "IF the creature Targeting me.." for defensive modifier effects that can be targeted.

    So, IFT: SIZE(medium); AC:1 on a creature will give that creature a +1 to AC when attacked by medium sized creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacchaeus View Post
    IF and IFT tests for conditions and conditional modifiers. SIZE is a conditional modifier.
    You are right of course, meant CRIT and not SIZE
    Quote Originally Posted by Trenloe View Post
    IFT also works in reverse for defensive targeted modifiers - AC is such a modifier. Think of it as "IF the creature Targeting me.." for defensive modifier effects that can be targeted.

    So, IFT: SIZE(medium); AC:1 on a creature will give that creature a +1 to AC when attacked by medium sized creatures.
    Oh, I didn't know that, or forgot that

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    Ok so IFT applies to both targeted and attacking I did not know that.

    What about the IFT type crit coding?

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    As I said above CRIT is not a targeted effect so it can’t be used in an IF or IFT effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacchaeus View Post
    As I said above CRIT is not a targeted effect so it can’t be used in an IF or IFT effect.
    IF works always Only IFT stuff needs the targetability of an effect See the screenshot:




    (though I am not sure about conditions as in IFT: ...; invisible; at least in 3.5e/PF1 conditions can never be combined with IFT even when targetable. But could be quickly tested )
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    Does anyone know where targetable effect modifiers are defined in the 5E ruleset code? I want to add a few custom modifiers for the DCC ruleset if that's possible.

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