roll20 secures D&D 5E license

[GunnarGreybeard]

The complaining about having to pay for it has already started. The whole, "I already have the books, why do I have to pay twice" posts are starting to appear. It'll be interesting to see how the news is received over the next few weeks.

[ddavison]

I think the free users can still buy products to run with their accounts. There are just limitations on the amount of storage and for some of the features, like LOS that require a subscription. I'm not sure how much of the storage space is used up by The Lost Mine of Phandelver, for example. I know that our DMG is over 123MB by itself, which would push you over the limits of the free account from the very beginning.

It's hard to see on the Roll20 site what is actually included unless you create an account, but can someone that has an account fact check out the attached comparison document to see if I missed anything?

Edit: Newer version of attachment found later in the thread.

[darrenan]

I'm sure the first thing that roll20 folks would call out that's missing from that PDF is the server-hosted/connection hassles issue (opening ports, etc.) which seems to be the the #1 complaint I always see here in the forums. I personally don't see it as a huge issue, but it is annoying on those rare occasions when it doesn't work for some reason and I need to pay attention to it. Doesn't stop me from being an FG die hard, but for others it might.

[Fudly]

I think the free users can still buy products to run with their accounts. There are just limitations on the amount of storage and for some of the features, like LOS that require a subscription. I'm not sure how much of the storage space is used up by The Lost Mine of Phandelver, for example. I know that our DMG is over 123MB by itself, which would push you over the limits of the free account from the very beginning.

It's hard to see on the Roll20 site what is actually included unless you create an account, but can someone that has an account fact check out the attached comparison document to see if I missed anything?

Paid content doesn't count towards your storage limit on roll20.

Roll20 has dynamic line of sight at plus membership.
Roll20 has enhanced rules automation with plugin scripts you can enable at pro membership.
Can host games offline should be a no for ultimate.
Roll20 includes tokens at all membership levels.

[Valarian]

Dough brought up a great point about how people will now see that the price points are going to be the same. The main things that Roll20 had going for it was completely free to use and it has dynamic lighting. Once FG comes out with DL (and kind of has with that extension I saw being worked on, which is amazing and I'll be checking that out soon when I get back to D&D next week), I think that will level the playing field again. People often tend to hate up front costs, I know I do. It's just a matter of getting them over the hump.

I dont believe that the dynamic lighting is free... i think its only on the subscription levels.

I was a backer, and I don't even get the extras like dynamic lighting without subscribing. Only a few map addons.

[Fudly]

I think the free users can still buy products to run with their accounts. There are just limitations on the amount of storage and for some of the features, like LOS that require a subscription. I'm not sure how much of the storage space is used up by The Lost Mine of Phandelver, for example. I know that our DMG is over 123MB by itself, which would push you over the limits of the free account from the very beginning.

It's hard to see on the Roll20 site what is actually included unless you create an account, but can someone that has an account fact check out the attached comparison document to see if I missed anything?

Also,
Anyone on roll20 has fx commands like /fx burn. They just don't have custom ones and a GUI.
Roll20 plus members can't email support.
Roll20 free users have map layers.
"Access to developer versions of fg" should probably not have "of fg"

[Fudly]

I'm not sure Fantasy Grounds has the "Use same characters in multiple campaigns" feature. As a player, you have to ask the DM to export your character out of a game for you.

Your comparison is also missing video, sound effects, voice, and the jukebox which are all available to free roll20 users.

[damned]

I'm not sure Fantasy Grounds has the "Use same characters in multiple campaigns" feature. As a player, you have to ask the DM to export your character out of a game for you.

Your comparison is also missing video, sound effects, voice, and the jukebox which are all available to free roll20 users.

As a player choose Manage Characters -> select the Campaign -> Export Characters is available there for all characters you have played.

[GunnarGreybeard]

Something I just noticed is that on the Polygon announcement page, they have a Fantasy Grounds overview video.

[JohnD]

Something I just noticed is that on the Polygon announcement page, they have a Fantasy Grounds overview video.

Yes, where they make it clear that they don't really know how to use FG to be able to provide a valid contrast.