Expanded Fantasy Language Fonts (FG v3.1.3+)

Fantasy Grounds v3.1.3 comes with most of the old language extension functionality added to the base product, with the addition of being selectable directly through a dropdown combo box in the chat window, and maintained through a GUI language list.

However, not all languages/fonts in the original extension are included with the base FG system. So, I've put together an extension that replicates the languages and fonts used in the original language extension. See screenshots of the languages and fonts here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post166710

FG Classic only. Cannot be used with FG Unity. Unity version available here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...-Fonts-for-FGU

Extension attached below.

Note: If you've already created the campaign before loading this new extension then FG won't use the new mappings, it will use the old ones from the base FG settings, and won't show the new language names (although the new fonts will be available). Edit your campaign db.xml file and remove the <languages> section (all of it, including the <languages> .. </languages> tags). Then open up your campaign with this extension enabled and the new mappings will be there.

Edited to add RolemasterClassic to the allowed rulesets.

How this extension works - if you want to change the mappings or add your own fonts.

The GameSystem.languagefonts table sets up the fonts that can be assigned to a language in the Languages admin screen (available from the Options window). The name in square brackets is what will appear in the drop down list in the Languages admin window and the name after the = is the actual name of the font within Fantasy Grounds (defined in graphics\graphics_fonts.xml in the base ruleset or extension.xml in this extension) and is, strangely enough, the name that will appear in the list once the font is selected. I'd recommend making the name before an after the = the same.

The GameSystem.languages table is the list of the base language name to font mappings. Whatever is in the square brackets is the actual language name and after the = is the FG font name - within this extension it doesn't have to match to entries in the GameSystem.languagefonts table it can be a valid FG font name, but this might get confusing and it won't be available in the drop down fonts list.

Summary: Setup new FG fonts in GameSystem.languagefonts and map language name to font in GameSystem.languages

Nice Work, young man!

Hello everyone.

I have been trying to get this language extension to work for some time now and have tried remaking a campaign, deleting the db.xml file and have still had no luck at all trying to get this extension to work and to show the embedded fonts.

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Thanks in advance for any insight that could help get this working.

I think this extension was rendered obsolete and rolled into the main program.

No this extension provides more fonts and languages than is in the base product.

David, it doesn't look like you have any fonts in there at all and you should have the basic language list even without this extension. What ruleset are you using? And do you see a list of languages without the extension.

That is a CoreRPG screen shot I believe - and no - there are no languages loaded by default in CoreRPG (afaik).

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Hello everyone.

I have been trying to get this language extension to work for some time now and have tried remaking a campaign, deleting the db.xml file and have still had no luck at all trying to get this extension to work and to show the embedded fonts.

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Thanks in advance for any insight that could help get this working.

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1) What ruleset are you using?
2) Do you see the extension loading message in the chat Window:

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Hey Zacchaeus

I am using CoreRPG and unfortunately there are no languages in the drop down box while using the base rule set with no extensions added.


I am using MoreCore. Would that have anything to do with it or probably not.

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1) What ruleset are you using?
2) Do you see the extension loading message in the chat Window:

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1. Core RPG

2. No, I figured it was not needed anymore when I read this in the CoreRPG extension list

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Or is this extension on the list something totally different than what I thought it was as being the base for the symbols?

This extension was not created for the CoreRPG ruleset itself as it was a direct replacement for the older languages extension (which didn't work in CoreRPG). So, I'm guessing you're not loading the extension as "Fantasy Language Fonts" isn't available as an option for CoreRPG based campaigns?

Try the attached (I've modified it to work with the CoreRPG ruleset) - but you'll need to activate it in your campaign (load a brand new CoreRPG campaign). If you don't see the loading message in the chat window (shown in post #8 above) then it's not loading.

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Originally Posted by David32780

1. Core RPG

2. No, I figured it was not needed anymore when I read this in the CoreRPG extension list

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Or is this extension on the list something totally different than what I thought it was as being the base for the symbols?

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OK, there's obviously some confusion here. You haven't loaded this extension at all (the one included in post #1 of this thread). Extensions need to be loaded to be used. This extension adds a bunch of fonts that were in the old extension (which is no longer needed). But you need to load this extension (attached in post #1) in order to still be able to use the fonts from the old languages extension.

So - the question is: are you just trying to get basic language fonts to work? Or are you actually trying to load this extension and use the additional language fonts?

I loaded the extension and it loaded the language symbols.

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What I think got me was reading on the forum page that the old language extension was no longer needed and that was why I did not load the extension in the first place because I assumed they were added in the base CoreRPG ruleset.

Is there a way to now get the Dwarvish, Elvish, Sylvan, Primordial etc like what is in the 5e ruleset. Or is that just available there?

Thanks guys and sorry for any confusion here.

Sorry to keep bothering you guys.

Is there a way to now get the Dwarvish, Elvish, Sylvan, Primordial etc like what is in the 5e ruleset. Or is that just available there?

Thanks

Get them from the 5e ruleset and use the extension that Trenloe uploaded for you and have a tinker... Im sure you will work it out.... :)

For some reason when I use this extension, the "Elven" font shows as a blank entry on the language selection list.
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Dwarven and a few other fonts also don't show up on the front drop down selection list. I've tried loading just this extension and no other extensions in a NEW campaign and the issue persists.

I've tried a few other combinations of the default language extension and this one and your other language extension and loading a new campaign each time. Yet I Can't seem to get this bug fixed so that it shows all the proper language fronts in the drop down.


PS. Sorry for the double post!

Accidental double post. Delete this please.

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Originally Posted by Dracius

For some reason when I use this extension, the "Elven" font shows as a blank entry on the language selection list.
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Dwarven and a few other fonts also don't show up on the front drop down selection list. I've tried loading just this extension and no other extensions in a NEW campaign and the issue persists.

I've tried a few other combinations of the default language extension and this one and your other language extension and loading a new campaign each time. Yet I Can't seem to get this bug fixed so that it shows all the proper language fronts in the drop down.

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Thanks for the heads-up. This is due to the 5E ruleset having the language string set to Dwarvish and Elvish, where the extension expects these to be Dwarven and Elven. I'll provide an update when I've thought of the best way to do this so that all rulesets using this extension keep compatibility.

Can you please also add fonts for Druidic and Thieves Cant in the next update? :)

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Originally Posted by Dracius

Can you please also add fonts for Druidic and Thieves Cant in the next update? :)

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Druidic was in there (using the Aquan font) but that has also been removed from the 5E language names by the looks of it. I'll add that to the list to hard code - we'll lose "translation" of the interface by hard coding, but it will stop these issues occurring in future.

You can add "languages" in yourself - within a campaign, go to the "Options" window, click the "Languages" button, then add the language name you want to match in FG and the most relevant font you want to use. The fonts this extension adds are shown here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post166710

Hello. This is my first post. I´ll try to write English as better as I can because my maternal language is Spanish.
Well, I´ve load the MoreCore ruleset in my standard license of FG y all right.
Then I tried charged the "Expanded language fonts" extension but it doesn´t work for MoroCore ruleset. For 3.5E, 4E, 5E works, but not for MoreCore ruleset.
Is there any error?,
Is Expanded language fonts" extension compatible with MoroCore ruleset?
Thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by deifdark

Is Expanded language fonts" extension compatible with MoroCore ruleset?

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It wasn't compatible, but I've just done some tests and it appears to work OK with the recent releases of CoreRPG and therefore MoreCore.

I've updated the attachment in post #1.

Post any issues/questions to may have in this thread.

Superb. I've load the new attachment and it works perfectly in MoreCore.
Thanks so much and I'm sorry, I've written my first post in the wrong threat.

Added SavageWorlds to the rulesets. I've only done basic testing. Let me know if there are any issues.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

How this extension works - if you want to change the mappings or add your own fonts.

The GameSystem.languagefonts table sets up the fonts that can be assigned to a language in the Languages admin screen (available from the Options window). The name in square brackets is what will appear in the drop down list in the Languages admin window and the name after the = is the actual name of the font within Fantasy Grounds (defined in graphics\graphics_fonts.xml in the base ruleset or extension.xml in this extension) and is, strangely enough, the name that will appear in the list once the font is selected. I'd recommend making the name before an after the = the same.

The GameSystem.languages table is the list of the base language name to font mappings. Whatever is in the square brackets is the actual language name and after the = is the FG font name - within this extension it doesn't have to match to entries in the GameSystem.languagefonts table it can be a valid FG font name, but this might get confusing and it won't be available in the drop down fonts list.

Summary: Setup new FG fonts in GameSystem.languagefonts and map language name to font in GameSystem.languages

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Hello, I am trying to add a custom font to your extension or to Fantasy Grounds. I don't quite understand where to look for GameSystem.languagefonts and GameSystem.languages so that i can modify them.

Thanks.

Welcome to the forums!

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Originally Posted by Rastroll

Hello, I am trying to add a custom font to your extension or to Fantasy Grounds. I don't quite understand where to look for GameSystem.languagefonts and GameSystem.languages so that i can modify them.

Thanks.

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They're LUA tables - see the LUA script file scripts\languages_extension.lua in the extension in post #1.

Thanks and thank you for the quick reply.

Okay, I have never modded anything before in my LIFE, but I wanted to add a custom Thassilonian true-type font I found online to this extension. I figured out how to turn the EXT into a zip file, I figured out what I needed to type in the languages_extension.lua. And I think I know what to add to the extension.xml file. But I noticed all the fonts link to fgf files? And not the actual font files? What do I need to do from this point?

Hey Miko_Chan there is a FGFontGenerator.exe floating around somewhere that converts fonts to a bitmap.

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/filel...tGenerator.exe

Hmm, okay I thought I had the grasp of this, but apparently I must have made a minor mistake somewhere. Oh well! Nothing to it but to keep trying.

Thanks for pointing me at the converter!

Oh how a single forgotten quotation mark can be thy bane. But hey. I figured it out! Thanks to the mod authors and to damned for hooking me up with the converter program!

You can also use TTF files directly - see the CoreRPG ruleset for an example:

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        <font name="reference-page-header">
                <ttf file="graphics/fonts/AlegreyaSansSC-Bold.ttf" name="Alegreya Sans SC" size="24" />
                <color value="#000000" />
        </font>

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More info here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/refdoc/font.xcp

However, Moon Wizard (main FG dev) has recently said that this can be inefficient - as FG has to do the conversion at runtime. If you have a couple of TTF fonts then it's OK using this, if you have a lot it is probably worth converting them to .fgf format first.

It may depend on the license the TTF file comes under - if it doesn't allow modification of the base TTF file, then you probably shouldn't be converting it in any publicly distributed FG material.

Looking at the extension it seems that it could be modified to serve other rulesets that are based on CoreRPG. The one in particular that I am interested in is the N.E.W. ruleset by MadBeardMan.
Do you think there would be a conflict with it? My idea is to make a new set of languages that are science fiction based for particular alien species. They would be TTF fonts, made mostly by myself and a few I have found on the internet.

Another question is would the fgf converter have a problem with these TTF fonts, after I make them? I am thinking not, but doesn't hurt to ask.

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Do you think there would be a conflict with it?

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Probably wouldn't have a conflict. Give it a go.

Could you add a loadorder tag to your extension.xml? Because it doesn't have one it loads alphabetically, and since it overwrites the GameSystem.languagefonts and GameSystem.languages, any other extensions which add languages and don't overwrite have to be named in such a way as to load after your extension.

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Originally Posted by Llisandur

Could you add a loadorder tag to your extension.xml? Because it doesn't have one it loads alphabetically, and since it overwrites the GameSystem.languagefonts and GameSystem.languages, any other extensions which add languages and don't overwrite have to be named in such a way as to load after your extension.

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I understand what you're saying, but changing the loadorder in this extension will only make it load later in the extension load process, not earlier - which will overwrite what earlier extensions have already done. Also, FG devs have said there is no actual guarantee of the exact load order for extensions with the same load order (default = 0). So, although it may appear to you that they are loading alphabetically, there is no guarantee that this will happen every time.

But, if you feel this will work for you, then you can make the loadorder change to the extension for your own use.

The code in the extension originally was coded to add fonts on the end of existing ones, but there were issues with this - although I can't remember the exact details as this was over 2 years ago. The original code is still there, commented out - you could uncomment the code, also change the names of the two tables etc. to make it populate the language and font table without overwriting. Hopefully the issues I had over 2 years ago will no longer be relevant now.

I did try that, which is why I asked. If I set the load order for your extension to some number and then set my extensions to a later number, it loads just fine. But without the loadorder tag on your extension, it seems to ignore the loadorder tags altogether, rather than defaulting to a loadorder of 0.

Anyway, rather than use the old code, I've found that

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function onInit()
--        Add new fonts to the end of the current languagefonts table in manager_gamesystem.lua
GameSystem.languagefonts["language"] = "language"

--        Add new languages to the end of the current languages table in manager_gamesystem.lua
GameSystem.languages["language"] = "language"
end

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seems to work just fine for adding new languages. I'm not sure if it's possible to overwrite old ones with this method though, which I think your extension does. As such they just have to load after your extension or they'll be overwritten.

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Originally Posted by Llisandur

I did try that, which is why I asked. If I set the load order for your extension to some number and then set my extensions to a later number, it loads just fine. But without the loadorder tag on your extension, it seems to ignore the loadorder tags altogether, rather than defaulting to a loadorder of 0.

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Sounds like maybe an issue with FG not reading/translating no loadorder to 0. Whereas changing to loadorder 1 (or something else) might seem to work now, if loadorder 0 is reinstated at some point, it will result in the extension not loading first. I'd prefer to get the base issue sorted thank do workarounds that might not be valid for long.

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Originally Posted by Llisandur

Anyway, rather than use the old code, I've found that

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function onInit()
--        Add new fonts to the end of the current languagefonts table in manager_gamesystem.lua
GameSystem.languagefonts["language"] = "language"

--        Add new languages to the end of the current languages table in manager_gamesystem.lua
GameSystem.languages["language"] = "language"
end

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seems to work just fine for adding new languages. I'm not sure if it's possible to overwrite old ones with this method though, which I think your extension does.

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That code is doing exactly the same as the old code in the extension is doing. It doesn't add to any existing tables, you're overwriting any previously defined languages just like the current extension does. It's not changing anything.

It doesn't overwrite the previously added languages because it's simply adding to the end of the array. The extension's code uses GameSystem.languagefonts = {["language"] = "language"} which sets the array to a new array.