Pathfinder Second Edition - Core Rules module (not PFRPG2 ruleset) info and feedback

Neither "Read Only" nor "Player Module" was selected, Images/Maps was selected in the export window.

The image was pushed to the players using "Share sheet" (some images were preloaded).

I was able to see the image using a second instance (even using the alias), four players were not able to see the image. I created an empty campaign with only the exported module loaded but it didn't make a difference. Only copying the images into the directory worked (there were no portraits indicating who could see the image however as far as I remember but I could be wrong).

Players reported they "could not see" the image, I'd have to ask what specifically was displayed.

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Originally Posted by Dr0W

Druid Class: Weapon proficiency lists Simple Weapons and Scimitar. My PDF doesn't list Scimitar.

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Thanks for reporting. Looks like we have a unwelcome guest from the playtest. Logged as CR2.034 - fixed in next release.

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Originally Posted by Dr0W

Also, on the table it lists 4 Cantrips, my PDF also says that, but the Primal Spellcasting says Five cantrips. So maybe there's an errata about that? (The brazilian official PDF lists the table having 5 cantrips)

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Thanks for the heads up. We'll wait for official guidance from Paizo. Logged as CR2.035.

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Originally Posted by stephan_

Neither "Read Only" nor "Player Module" was selected, Images/Maps was selected in the export window.

The image was pushed to the players using "Share sheet" (some images were preloaded).

I was able to see the image using a second instance (even using the alias), four players were not able to see the image. I created an empty campaign with only the exported module loaded but it didn't make a difference. Only copying the images into the directory worked (there were no portraits indicating who could see the image however as far as I remember but I could be wrong).

Players reported they "could not see" the image, I'd have to ask what specifically was displayed.

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I've seen some issues recently where the module appeared to be downloaded (there was a .dat file in the player cache) but wouldn't open in the library. I wonder if this is related.

You can try getting on of the players to exit the game, clear their cache and re-join and see if that makes a difference.

Also, does the GM see the shared Public icon (P) appear next to the image in the campaign data list?

Cleric Class: Alertness and Weapon Specialization received at level 1, when it should be received at level 3 and 13 respectivelly.

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Originally Posted by Dr0W

Cleric Class: Alertness and Weapon Specialization received at level 1, when it should be received at level 3 and 13 respectivelly.

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Thanks for reporting. Fixed Alertness to be level 5 (as per the PDF), and Weapon Specialization to be 13. CR2.036.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Thanks for reporting. Fixed Alertness to be level 5 (as per the PDF), and Weapon Specialization to be 13. CR2.036.

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Exatly what I meant, level 5.

I was totally not bamboozled by that "3rd-level..." in the beggining of the line...

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Originally Posted by kaernunnos

The giant instinct for barbarian seems to be missing.
Crafting formulas have no place for tracking (mainly effects alchemist)
Alchemical items used as bombs don't populate as attacks on the actions tab

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Yep, Giant Instinct seems to be missing from the list.

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Originally Posted by Ap0th1x

Yep, Giant Instinct seems to be missing from the list.

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Yes indeed. This has been logged as CR2.013 (see the link in post #2 to the issue tracking spreadsheet). Fixed in next release.

noticed that the level/xp in the encounter seems to be broken, it doesn't seem to be calculating at all, but when it does, it spits out way too much xp

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

You can try getting on of the players to exit the game, clear their cache and re-join and see if that makes a difference.

Also, does the GM see the shared Public icon (P) appear next to the image in the campaign data list?

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We did not try clearing the cache but we tried creating an empty campaign and sharing the image again, which did not work.

If I remember correctly, it did show the (P) icon.

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Originally Posted by Alex Craft

noticed that the level/xp in the encounter seems to be broken, it doesn't seem to be calculating at all, but when it does, it spits out way too much xp

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https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post447596

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

That's the first trait I've seen that has a space in it.

I'd changed the PF2 code to use spaces to separate traits (the playtest code used commas) as it was better for readability of trait entries (IMO) and I hadn't found any two word traits. But, looks like I may have to go back and change back to commas. Great...

Sort term work around - enter it as "Sea-Devil".

Thanks for reporting. Logged as RS2.020.

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Just so that you know, the brazilian edition has some traits with spaces in it, "Cantrip" is "Truque Mágico" for example. And maybe in the future they will include more. Better be ready for them!

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Originally Posted by Dr0W

Just so that you know, the brazilian edition has some traits with spaces in it, "Cantrip" is "Truque Mágico" for example. And maybe in the future they will include more. Better be ready for them!

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Thanks for the info. That's decided then - I'll have to switch back to commas.

Ok, commas is what I'm currently using in the parser.

Monsters / NPCs should have multiple attack penalities built into their stat blocks (calculating for agile)

Because FG auto applies crits (with crit successes and failures being far more frequent) and adjusting the modifier stack manually slows the game down significantly the only current solution of merit is to drag across custom effects. And that is also quite slow.

Currently I am rolling the first attack as targeted and the second and third attacks just into the chat window for speed and doing the math in my head. But people picking it up in FG without knowing how best to solve this will have a rough time.

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Originally Posted by lostsanityreturned

Monsters / NPCs should have multiple attack penalities built into their stat blocks (calculating for agile)

Because FG auto applies crits (with crit successes and failures being far more frequent) and adjusting the modifier stack manually slows the game down significantly the only current solution of merit is to drag across custom effects. And that is also quite slow.

Currently I am rolling the first attack as targeted and the second and third attacks just into the chat window for speed and doing the math in my head. But people picking it up in FG without knowing how best to solve this will have a rough time.

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Discussed here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...l=1#post447501 and a few posts after.

Does FG update the rulesets/app on a set schedule or are updates just released as they are available?

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Originally Posted by Ap0th1x

Does FG update the rulesets/app on a set schedule or are updates just released as they are available?

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Usually Tuesday. Check in the City Hall subforum for release announcements.

So I have been noticing a lot of (especially breath weapon) mobs have a "cooldown" timer on some of their powers. 1d4 rounds, 1d6 rounds, etc. For now, I decided the easiest thing is to just set up an EFFECT with Breath Cooldown (for example) with a randomizer set in it's # of rounds. Curious, though, if you've thought about putting in anything more elegant and visual?

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Originally Posted by ShadeRaven

Curious, though, if you've thought about putting in anything more elegant and visual?

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Yes.

There's similar functionality in 5E and I'm looking at how to bring that in, at some point.

That'll be great.. for now, the effect will hold us over.

I must admit, started taking a look at the LUA programming. Last time I did any serious programming was when I worked on the Neverwinter Nights team - so, yeah, like 16 years ago since I did anything hardcore. I am a little tempted to do something to automate the Poison/Disease stage tracking/saves routine, but not sure that's not already on the agenda for you guys. Not to mention, it wouldn't be a small project to take on to start. :p

And let's face it, still trying to finish the Bestiary (almost through CR6) and offer some PF2 modules out here to get people some playable content to dabble in...

Look at all the code, though.. definitely reminded me of how much of a challenge and rewarding to get into the nuts and bolts can be.

I appreciate the effort you and others have done!

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Originally Posted by ShadeRaven

I am a little tempted to do something to automate the Poison/Disease stage tracking/saves routine, but not sure that's not already on the agenda for you guys.

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Yeah, it's on the long list. Pretty core to PF2.

Noticed a few things in the Barbarian feats. Swipe feat text is mixed with Raging Athletics, Dragon Breath feat text is mixed with Cleave, Furious Sprint feat text is mixed with Come and Get Me, Perfect Clarity feat text is mixed with Vicious Evisceration, Whirlwind strike feat text is mixed with Vengeful Strike.

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Originally Posted by Roboconn

Noticed a few things in the Barbarian feats. Swipe feat text is mixed with Raging Athletics, Dragon Breath feat text is mixed with Cleave, Furious Sprint feat text is mixed with Come and Get Me, Perfect Clarity feat text is mixed with Vicious Evisceration, Whirlwind strike feat text is mixed with Vengeful Strike.

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Thanks for reporting. Found it. Logged as CR2.037.

Found a couple of rogue and sorcerer feats as well - the Paizo action icon text had two actions (incorrect text), which caused the parse to fail.

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Originally Posted by rickyhunt

The wizard has a spell class for focus spells that was just created when the character was created. The cleric has 2 focus spells, but doesn't have a focus spell class and I can't find a way to create one manually. I can only choose between prepared and spontaneous if I make a new blank spell class.

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Adding a Cleric class to a PC doesn't automatically add a Focus spell class in FG as not all Clerics get Focus spells - you need to take class feats to get them.

You can add a Focus Spell class through the usual edit buttons at the bottom of the actions tab - click the brown / button and then click the blue "F" button.

Should this discussion be moved to the ruleset thread?

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Originally Posted by darrenan

Should this discussion be moved to the ruleset thread?

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Yes, it should - and has been moved.

It's great that people are reporting issues and discussing using the PFRPG2 ruleset - but can we please mention issues in the appropriate thread - there are currently 2 sticky threads, one for the Core Rules module (this is the DLC you've purchased) and another for the PFRPG2 ruleset.

I built a character last night. Feedback:

1. I didn't see a "class" for Ancestries with innate spellcasting. I felt like I had to shoe-horn in one. It would be useful for there to be an "innate" spellcasting class on the abilities tab for this sort of thing.
2. If there is supposed to be a place for Alchemists to record their formulas, I didn't see it or find it.

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Originally Posted by robert4818

2. If there is supposed to be a place for Alchemists to record their formulas, I didn't see it or find it.

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https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...las#post448124

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Originally Posted by robert4818

1. I didn't see a "class" for Ancestries with innate spellcasting. I felt like I had to shoe-horn in one. It would be useful for there to be an "innate" spellcasting class on the abilities tab for this sort of thing.

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Revisiting this after I've done a little reading.

Innate spells aren't handled any differently than other spells in Fantasy Grounds. Just add a new spell section to the actions tab of your character and populate the relevant data. This is something you'll need to do manually if you select an Ancestry Heritage that has innate spells (e.g Seer Elf, Fey-Touched Gnome or Wellspring Gnome).

adding background 'field medic' resulted in !!! Failed to add Background Feat 'Battle Medic' to " - Feat record not found - the feat is called 'Battle Medicine' so I think this is just a typo in the logic.

Going to agree with the previous posters - the +++ is workable - but it would be super nice if they were in a *separate window* with even a checklist you could 'click' to validate to yourself that it was done

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

adding background 'field medic' resulted in !!! Failed to add Background Feat 'Battle Medic' to " - Feat record not found - the feat is called 'Battle Medicine' so I think this is just a typo in the logic.

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I could have sworn that was fixed in the last release. Obviously not. This was logged as CR2.024.

Thanks for reporting - this *will* be fixed in the next release.

Yep - v3.3.8 (PF2 release 2) so to the best of my knowledge it's up to date. Given Paizo's commitment to clerics requiring deities - and the mechanics behind them - is there any thought to having this as a 'category' like spells or abilities - would make it easy to reference on character building and ease plugging in additions as they come - PF1 ended up with ... a huge list and I feel like that trend will continue.

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

Given Paizo's commitment to clerics requiring deities - and the mechanics behind them - is there any thought to having this as a 'category' like spells or abilities - would make it easy to reference on character building and ease plugging in additions as they come - PF1 ended up with ... a huge list and I feel like that trend will continue.

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I'm waiting until I see Lost Omens Gods & Magic before I make any decisions on what I'm going to do about that.

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

Yep - v3.3.8 (PF2 release 2) so to the best of my knowledge it's up to date.

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That's the base ruleset version, not the version of the Core Rules module data. You can get the data version from the Core Rules reference manual -> Credits and Legal -> Module Versioning.

Version 1.02 release aug 6th 2019 - I bought and downloaded this morning.

When modifying the attack action for a spell (example: Divine cantrip - divine lance - ranged spell attack) there is no 'spell attack' mod - the 'Base' is being determined by something I can't quite figure out - as it resulted in a +5 for a ranged attack (dex +2, ranged bonus +2) - my spell attack was a +7. Spell attack seems common enough the attack type should be present. This is just a minor thing at the moment as you can work around it with static bonuses.

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Originally Posted by Ckorik

When modifying the attack action for a spell (example: Divine cantrip - divine lance - ranged spell attack) there is no 'spell attack' mod - the 'Base' is being determined by something I can't quite figure out - as it resulted in a +5 for a ranged attack (dex +2, ranged bonus +2) - my spell attack was a +7.

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Open up the Spell/Ability use window for the spell attack (click the magnifying glass) and set the "Attack Type" to ranged and the "Stat" to your casting stat. The attack will then use your casting state bonus and the proficiency bonus from your spell roll section (in the header of the spell section).

At some point I'll change the M Touch and R Touch attack types to be Spell Melee and Spell Ranged attacks which will use the modifiers from the spell header. For now, do as described above.

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forum...las#post448124

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Originally Posted by Trenloe

Revisiting this after I've done a little reading.

Innate spells aren't handled any differently than other spells in Fantasy Grounds. Just add a new spell section to the actions tab of your character and populate the relevant data. This is something you'll need to do manually if you select an Ancestry Heritage that has innate spells (e.g Seer Elf, Fey-Touched Gnome or Wellspring Gnome).

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For both of these, I feel that the answer shouldn't be "there is a way to hack it in".

I get that there are workarounds. However, a workaround creates confusion instead of clarity.

I found a way to hack in my innate cantrip using one of the existing set-ups. But when trying to create my character it was confusing trying to decide which was the way to do it.

The same with alchemy formulas. Just because there's a way to "push" it in, doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a natural place for it.